IceDonut

IceDonut

25 | him/his | European

Writing since 2016 to find the fine line between the bittersweet beauty of sorrow and the feeling of deep human connection, creating worlds that provide shelter from reality, but also embrace its way of being.
I occasionally write comments/critiques that could be short stories on their own, so sorry for all the flooded comment sections 😅
Read into my current novel "Celluloid", if you are interested!

registered at: Sep 08, 2021
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    Sep 09, 2023

    To:minatika

    Haha, no worries! But yes, maybe asking is a good approach as well, so the writer is also comfortable with the type of feedback they receive. 😊👍

    Okay, then I understand better what you were referring to with your bias. I really like "deep" stories with more thought-provoking contents! This story also had a fair share of them, I guess, while I tried keeping it still lighthearted and wholesome enough! 🙂
    And it's true, that these shows would probably be more realistic if set in a university, but I think they are created like this on purpose! The target audience are probably people who are just finishing school (or are studying already), but reminiscing back at school times? 🤔
    Well ... I can only cross fingers the Jury thinks this way as well, but we'll see. Two of these inspirations were in the model works at least. 😅

    And I see what you're talking about ... it's more like a personal preference. Maybe I'll think about this in more depth!
    To improve legibility, I also changed "Chapter 13: The Colors of Summer." (The one with the many jumps) and added an empty line for every scene transition ... oh ... I just checked the chapter and it seems, when copying all the chapters from my Word doc to Honeyfeed to upload the final version in the end, it deleted all of these empty lines ... and I didn't notice it until now 🥲 So it looks exactly the same as before 😬🫣
    I guess empty lines are not a possibility, then ... so, maybe I have to consider some other symbols as well 😅

    And I'm not sure about the first person part: You wrote about novels written in first person. And I didn't want to say anything about novels written in first person! Not at all! I even think that most novels are written in first person and that's totally fine for me! I was just talking about ones that have scenes and segments written from different people's perspectives in first person (Like as if I write a scene from Akimi's POV first person and then switch to another scene where Takurou becomes the POV first person narrator).
    But I think your point still stands with this as well. There surely are examples for critically acclaimed books having done this themselves--maybe to achieve a certain aspect. It seems like I tend to generalize some of these aspects there 😅
    If done carefully and with knowledge of the downsides, they can surely be achieved in a great way just as well. So, it's definitely not like an instant "tell" of "lazy" writing! 😅
    And "real" paperback books are also not automatically the gold standard of good writing. They are just usually the culmination of the work from editors and countless iterations and considerations from professionals from the business. There are Web Novels able to hold up with that as well, but they don't necessarily do (sure, there also are examples for the other way around, but I think in most cases this is how it is).
    Maybe I'm just previously damaged, because I can't remember reading/ noticing/remembering such things from the books I've read and only found them used in rather poorly written web novels on Wattpad ... and probably drew the connection there 😅

    Nonetheless, I will think about my preconceptions of things like these and maybe find solutions that feel comfortable for me 😊 Maybe just a simple hyphen for scene breaks, which is not as visible and direct ... maybe short chapters with just few words? 🤔
    Guess, I'll have to experiment with this as well 😊👍

    So thank you again for your thoughts on this! 😊 And many successes with the other books you still have to read! 👍

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    Celluloid: The Magic beneath us
    Chapter:22

    Sep 08, 2023

    To:minatika

    Yaaay! Congratulations, you reached the end! 😱😱
    Okay, where do I begin ...? Hmm ... I think first of all thank you SO much! For reading, for commenting so many long and enthusiastic comments. And of course for your thoughts and the suggestions throughout this story! 😊❤️❤️❤️
    You've seen many details and celebrated along the whole way. I'm really grateful for that! 😊
    And I'm also exceptionally grateful that you wrote this critical review for me! 😊❤️ Really! This totally made my day, when reading this! 😊
    But I also understand, that this might feel a little a little stress-inducing, because you feel like shaking up a person, maybe making a damage you can't undo, based on mostly a subjective gut feeling that is hard to pinpoint to actual facts. 😅
    So I see why you would rather not keep doing this. That's okay. Just to reassure you: I'm honestly really happy about this and feel encouraged and motivated to write something that will be even better next time! 😊

    But also: Welcome to my world 😂 This is how I usually write, and probably why I am rather slow with it. Exploring things from all different sides and weaving them into the parts I'm more comfortable with to provide a story 😂
    I'm happy you liked the developments from this last chapter and the way this story concluded! 😊
    Indeed, I always try to to add a certain layer of realism and "trivia" to my stories (mainly because I love this as well), and helps grounding things in reality. That's my approach to making things more relatable and I'm happy you also noted this as a strong point! 😁
    It's also great to hear, the dynamics between them worked out as intended! 😊

    Regarding the points of possible improvement, there also weren't many things that really surprised me! 😊
    I think my characters in general are probably more mature than would be usual. That's a general aspect throughout all my writing (thinking back at all my novels 🤔). The wholesomeness aspect in this one even exaggerated this more, since mature behavior and communication => mature characters. I've also seen this in "Your Lie in April", where the characters are middle schoolers and sometimes feel much older than that 😂 Same for Horimiya, (Anohana) and (Your Name), who were more or less strong inspirations for this story as well.
    I agree, that this could definitely be turned into a university setting, if necessary, but for me, personally, it doesn't need to be 🙂
    And in regards to the other points, I fully agree to them! Working out distinct character voices (also in regards to their dialect) doesn't come to me that easy, so it's always a grind! 😂 Same with all the names thrown in. I think with more material to back these characters up, this would have made things better 😁👍 ... but would have taken me another month 🤔

    And in regards to the usage of scene break symbols: I guess I'm a little bit peculiar and question a few techniques used in Web Novels too much 😂
    I don't like switching first person narrators between several characters for example. To me this mostly comes across as "lazy", especially if the switching happens throughout a chapter. I always feel like "Really skilled writers don't need a first person narrator to bring the emotions across". And it's similar with these scene break symbols.
    For me there are chapter breaks to switch a scene and if doing this inside a chapter, a "really skilled writer doesn't need scene break symbols". At least I can't remember reading any "real" (older paperback) book that had symbols like these to indicate a scene changing. I just think they sometimes also had chapters with just very fewer words (~500) 🤔 Maybe that could be a way to go?
    For me, scene transitions feel more natural if they are only subtly hinted at in a text and not as "invasive" like a clear indicator jumping right at you. Also, when reading texts from other people, who are using these things, I usually think that these symbols wouldn't be necessary for me. If I just ignored these indicators, the transitions would be very much clear enough for me.
    Perhaps I'm just strange with how I read (maybe that would also explain why I am so slow at it as well 😂) or I'm not skilled enough as a writer to make these transitions clear enough 🤔
    The one you mentioned there for example was meant to portray a match cut/jump cut. With real, visual cuts like these, you usually have a shot moment of disorientation as well, so I also liked this effect when reading (even though this is a self-creation from me, so this should maybe be seen separate from regular scene transitions that also happened along the lines) 🤔
    But let's discuss this: Maybe I'm just too old school with this approach and my writing should be more inclusive in this regard. What do you say to these points? 🙂

    And just to clear this up: I also started writing this in July. Not all the time, because I still had assignments for uni to finish, but at the side I sketched out a few ideas and planned the general plot, wrote the first chapters and everything. But I guess next year, I think I should start a little earlier with the actual writing and not bother too much about all the plotting 😂
    And don't worry about your opinion being biased. Every opinion is and I'm very much aware of that! 😉 Therefore I also questioned your assumptions and try to discuss a few of them to find a more neutral middle ground!
    So thank you so much for being a part of this journey! This really helps me immensely! 😊
    So thank you for reading! ❤️❤️❤️

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    Celluloid: The Magic beneath us
    Chapter:22






    Sep 08, 2023

    To:minatika

    Yes, most big businesses are usually traded on the stock market, but that also poses several issues: The main one, giving people mainly interested in dividends and rising share prices the power to decide about the business. To slightly oversimplify things: The decisions aiming for the greatest economical growth are rarely very sustainable in the long run.
    The company I work for, for example, was family-owned for far over 100 years and is slowly transitioning into a international corporation during the last decades (the current owner's children don't want to keep leading it). In order to still protect his employees and his legacy, the current owner established a framework where the company is a corporation, but the shares are not traded publicly and 90% are held by a charitable foundation, which has a special constitution.
    This provides a safety net for the employees, so that some CEO won't be able to milk the company for short-time profit: Close subsidiaries, fire thousands of people or sell the company to a bigger fish to make money. It might not be a strategy for the highest profit (which is usually only beneficial for those at the top), but it's the right thing to do for the big family of the employees.
    It's similar with Akimi's family: Of course, they could sell the company and live off the dividends, but they also want to know their family's legacy in good hands. They don't want someone to potentially butcher it for nothing but money. There are real people working there and they also want to keep producing movies that they can be proud of. That's a little bit like selling your own baby 😂
    The easiest solution for this is, of course, to have Akimi take over the company and leave it off the stock market. She never questioned if there would be an alternative, because she herself wants to do this and take over the responsibility.
    There are also other solutions, like still keeping the majority of the stock shares, but however you see it: You have to keep the shareholders happy with money, and are therefore dependent from them 😅

    And yes, her tutoring happens in Osaka and not in Tokyo. Only her studying after that would be in Tokyo, then 😅

    Exactly! This misconception of her is what (as you already read 😅) she would still figure out later on. And yeah, she could have time for her photography, but the very time-consuming hobbies just die down slowly. 😶‍🌫️

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    Celluloid: The Magic beneath us
    Chapter:16